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		<title>By: Niche Marketing Camp</title>
		<link>http://sitefling.com/blog/word-of-mouth-markeing-sucks/#comment-709</link>
		<dc:creator>Niche Marketing Camp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 14:40:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would say, in Internet Marketing, it`s pretty easy to make this whole thing work, and even track it.

See, if you are working in some niche, and create a super-duper ebook, packed with a bunch of valuable information. You give it away for free. It can eventually go viral. And if you have your links in there, you can add tracking, and voila - you have some stats.

Just look at FireFox - I am sure the word of mouth plays a HUGE role in how many people use this browser all around the world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would say, in Internet Marketing, it`s pretty easy to make this whole thing work, and even track it.</p>
<p>See, if you are working in some niche, and create a super-duper ebook, packed with a bunch of valuable information. You give it away for free. It can eventually go viral. And if you have your links in there, you can add tracking, and voila &#8211; you have some stats.</p>
<p>Just look at FireFox &#8211; I am sure the word of mouth plays a HUGE role in how many people use this browser all around the world.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
		<link>http://sitefling.com/blog/word-of-mouth-markeing-sucks/#comment-708</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 22:27:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am currently involved in a Network marketing company. A lot of  the UK high flyers have looked at the net for promoting their wares but have not done due diligence.
 In a way traditional networkers  I have come across have applied internet marketing as they would learn a foreign language by translating the words on the fly instead of thinking in that language. I see no reason why Networking cannot be done via the internet as you still need rapport and the &#039;know, like and trust&#039; approach.

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Paul’s last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ourincomeplus.com/index.php?option=com_content&amp;view=article&amp;id=49:how-to-develop-your-business&amp;catid=1:latest-news&amp;Itemid=18&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;How to develop your business&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am currently involved in a Network marketing company. A lot of  the UK high flyers have looked at the net for promoting their wares but have not done due diligence.<br />
 In a way traditional networkers  I have come across have applied internet marketing as they would learn a foreign language by translating the words on the fly instead of thinking in that language. I see no reason why Networking cannot be done via the internet as you still need rapport and the &#8216;know, like and trust&#8217; approach.</p>
<p><abbr><em>Paul’s last blog post..<a href="http://www.ourincomeplus.com/index.php?option=com_content&amp;view=article&amp;id=49:how-to-develop-your-business&amp;catid=1:latest-news&amp;Itemid=18" rel="nofollow">How to develop your business</a></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: JMarkson</title>
		<link>http://sitefling.com/blog/word-of-mouth-markeing-sucks/#comment-707</link>
		<dc:creator>JMarkson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2009 12:01:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s about authenticity, right?  WOM is MEGA-powerful---if it&#039;s coming from the bottom up and isn&#039;t an overt buzz creation attempt.

It&#039;s a crapshoot if you&#039;re trying to orchestrate it.  It&#039;s a godsend when it &quot;just happens&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s about authenticity, right?  WOM is MEGA-powerful&#8212;if it&#8217;s coming from the bottom up and isn&#8217;t an overt buzz creation attempt.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a crapshoot if you&#8217;re trying to orchestrate it.  It&#8217;s a godsend when it &#8220;just happens&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Lorraine Ball</title>
		<link>http://sitefling.com/blog/word-of-mouth-markeing-sucks/#comment-706</link>
		<dc:creator>Lorraine Ball</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 17:50:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Word of mouth works best when you do two things:
1 ) create a product worth talking about
2) Tell people what you want them to say.  ask them for testimonials, and referrals, don&#039;t leave WOM to chance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Word of mouth works best when you do two things:<br />
1 ) create a product worth talking about<br />
2) Tell people what you want them to say.  ask them for testimonials, and referrals, don&#8217;t leave WOM to chance.</p>
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		<title>By: Kiya</title>
		<link>http://sitefling.com/blog/word-of-mouth-markeing-sucks/#comment-705</link>
		<dc:creator>Kiya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Apr 2009 17:37:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Justin,

good post - as always. Thanks for the &#039;heads up&#039; and putting WOM into perspective marketingwise.

But I have a heads up for you, too. It concerns readability of your blog and the font that you use.

The font of your post is quite small but still o.k. (maybe my ma has her opinion about this...) But the font of the comments appears TINY on my screen. Especially with this serif font it is almost UNREADABLE  and makes my eyes flicker. I have much better eyes than average but still I have to get as close as 10 inch to the screen to be able to read it...

Anyone else have this problem?

Cheers,
Kiya</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Justin,</p>
<p>good post &#8211; as always. Thanks for the &#8216;heads up&#8217; and putting WOM into perspective marketingwise.</p>
<p>But I have a heads up for you, too. It concerns readability of your blog and the font that you use.</p>
<p>The font of your post is quite small but still o.k. (maybe my ma has her opinion about this&#8230;) But the font of the comments appears TINY on my screen. Especially with this serif font it is almost UNREADABLE  and makes my eyes flicker. I have much better eyes than average but still I have to get as close as 10 inch to the screen to be able to read it&#8230;</p>
<p>Anyone else have this problem?</p>
<p>Cheers,<br />
Kiya</p>
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		<title>By: Tony Finbarr-Smith</title>
		<link>http://sitefling.com/blog/word-of-mouth-markeing-sucks/#comment-704</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony Finbarr-Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Apr 2009 11:06:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>how to track WOM:

1. start a rumor that if you ask how jerr&#039;y baby is, they give you extra hot wings.

2. see how many people ask how jerry&#039;s baby is!

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.twitter.com/show&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;follow @show on twitter&lt;a&gt;

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Tony Finbarr-Smith’s last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.phatmarketing.net/blog/2009/03/knowing-your-outcome-is-not-all-there-is-to-it/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Knowing your outcome is NOT all there is to it!&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>how to track WOM:</p>
<p>1. start a rumor that if you ask how jerr&#8217;y baby is, they give you extra hot wings.</p>
<p>2. see how many people ask how jerry&#8217;s baby is!</p>
<p><a href="http://www.twitter.com/show" rel="nofollow">follow @show on twitter</a><a></p>
<p><abbr><em>Tony Finbarr-Smith’s last blog post..<a href="http://www.phatmarketing.net/blog/2009/03/knowing-your-outcome-is-not-all-there-is-to-it/" rel="nofollow">Knowing your outcome is NOT all there is to it!</a></em></abbr></a></p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://sitefling.com/blog/word-of-mouth-markeing-sucks/#comment-703</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Apr 2009 09:02:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi all

This is an interesting debate and here&#039;s my point of view.

I&#039;m big on measuring, testing and tweaking things to see what works best. In the old days (pre-Internet)  it would take ages to try things out and generally costs of doing it were far higher as well.

My main point about this debate is that you could and may be should do both things.  Set up systems and measure the results and also use word of mouth but in a very specific way.

For too long much has been written about the need for compelling copy and I would agree it is vital. It&#039;s also vital that there are conversions from lookers into buyers.

The biggest and best business become brands in their own right. If the focus was to create a world class business and deliver a great service people would talk about it. To some extend the need for long sales pages and clever copy goes away because people trust you, they trust what you deliver and they want you to have their business.

There is a different timescale though - Building a world-class service takes time and in a way it never stops but what happens is that it creates it&#039;s own momentum.

This momentum helps to lower the cost of client or customer acquisition.

My business partner and I have a mortgage broking business (we are based in the UK), it is highly regulated and has suffered from the current credit crunch. The UK mortgage market has dropped by between 70% to 80% and a lot of brokers have closed up and gone bust.

We haven&#039;t though, our numbers are slightly down on the year before but we are still going.

We are not able to advertise without everything going through the Financial Services Authority. Trust me I am not allowed to write promotions in the way that I would want to.

We focus on delivering a World-Class service and offer a possibly unique guarantee. We charge a broker fee and always have done where a lot of our competitors don&#039;t.

I honestly believe it&#039;s our attitude to go above and beyond the call of duty that keeps us going. No tricks, nothing clever just a great service.

That for me is Word of Mouth but.... not in isolation because it&#039;s really hard to measure in the short term.

Cheers from the UK

Steve

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.twitter.com/show&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;follow @show on twitter&lt;a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi all</p>
<p>This is an interesting debate and here&#8217;s my point of view.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m big on measuring, testing and tweaking things to see what works best. In the old days (pre-Internet)  it would take ages to try things out and generally costs of doing it were far higher as well.</p>
<p>My main point about this debate is that you could and may be should do both things.  Set up systems and measure the results and also use word of mouth but in a very specific way.</p>
<p>For too long much has been written about the need for compelling copy and I would agree it is vital. It&#8217;s also vital that there are conversions from lookers into buyers.</p>
<p>The biggest and best business become brands in their own right. If the focus was to create a world class business and deliver a great service people would talk about it. To some extend the need for long sales pages and clever copy goes away because people trust you, they trust what you deliver and they want you to have their business.</p>
<p>There is a different timescale though &#8211; Building a world-class service takes time and in a way it never stops but what happens is that it creates it&#8217;s own momentum.</p>
<p>This momentum helps to lower the cost of client or customer acquisition.</p>
<p>My business partner and I have a mortgage broking business (we are based in the UK), it is highly regulated and has suffered from the current credit crunch. The UK mortgage market has dropped by between 70% to 80% and a lot of brokers have closed up and gone bust.</p>
<p>We haven&#8217;t though, our numbers are slightly down on the year before but we are still going.</p>
<p>We are not able to advertise without everything going through the Financial Services Authority. Trust me I am not allowed to write promotions in the way that I would want to.</p>
<p>We focus on delivering a World-Class service and offer a possibly unique guarantee. We charge a broker fee and always have done where a lot of our competitors don&#8217;t.</p>
<p>I honestly believe it&#8217;s our attitude to go above and beyond the call of duty that keeps us going. No tricks, nothing clever just a great service.</p>
<p>That for me is Word of Mouth but&#8230;. not in isolation because it&#8217;s really hard to measure in the short term.</p>
<p>Cheers from the UK</p>
<p>Steve</p>
<p><a href="http://www.twitter.com/show" rel="nofollow">follow @show on twitter</a><a></a></p>
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		<title>By: Maggie</title>
		<link>http://sitefling.com/blog/word-of-mouth-markeing-sucks/#comment-702</link>
		<dc:creator>Maggie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Apr 2009 08:23:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmmmmmm Word of Mouth, scenario the cook who cooks those lovely wings goes sick or on holidays and another cook takes over - does not do such a good job - they say you will tell 22 people if you are unhappy to the ratio of 10 if you&#039;re happy.

WOM has its place, but to reply entirely on that - Man, just undo the plug in the bath, adn be sucked down with the bath water.

All forms have their drawbacks, but I for one would rather be able to measure the results than any other methods.

Great article!  Food for thought for us all and everyone we know who runs a business.

Love and Light

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.twitter.com/show&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;follow @show on twitter&lt;a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmmmmmm Word of Mouth, scenario the cook who cooks those lovely wings goes sick or on holidays and another cook takes over &#8211; does not do such a good job &#8211; they say you will tell 22 people if you are unhappy to the ratio of 10 if you&#8217;re happy.</p>
<p>WOM has its place, but to reply entirely on that &#8211; Man, just undo the plug in the bath, adn be sucked down with the bath water.</p>
<p>All forms have their drawbacks, but I for one would rather be able to measure the results than any other methods.</p>
<p>Great article!  Food for thought for us all and everyone we know who runs a business.</p>
<p>Love and Light</p>
<p><a href="http://www.twitter.com/show" rel="nofollow">follow @show on twitter</a><a></a></p>
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		<title>By: Ron</title>
		<link>http://sitefling.com/blog/word-of-mouth-markeing-sucks/#comment-701</link>
		<dc:creator>Ron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 20:21:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WOM advertising is not what it used to be and over the years has lost much of it&#039;s value. Why? Well because opinions are like butt holes, every one has one so now WOM has to be aligned with where it is coming from and do they have the same tastes and or opinions as you. Forget the reviews because marketers have made use of them as marketing tools and they are rarely more then some hyped up scheme used to garner traffic.

It also does well to consider that not all businesses benefit from rapidly increased traffic. Example the much cherished chicken wings that you enjoyed may lose their quality if the restaurant had to scale up their operations to &quot;Handle the Traffic&quot;, lines would increase in size, parking could become a problem, hiring more personnel may be detrimental to food preparation quality. Even the most prepared IMers have suffered from overloaded servers, most recent major launches from big names like Mike Filsame among others have fallen prey. In this example of course recovery is usually faster on the internet than brick and mortar and without a quick recovery any progress made with high traffic will soon be wiped out by dissatisfied customers.

Summary: In my opinion WOM advertising has little value in the high speed world of the Internet and in the Brick and Mortar world as well.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.twitter.com/ronmai2&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;follow @ronmai2 on twitter&lt;a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WOM advertising is not what it used to be and over the years has lost much of it&#8217;s value. Why? Well because opinions are like butt holes, every one has one so now WOM has to be aligned with where it is coming from and do they have the same tastes and or opinions as you. Forget the reviews because marketers have made use of them as marketing tools and they are rarely more then some hyped up scheme used to garner traffic.</p>
<p>It also does well to consider that not all businesses benefit from rapidly increased traffic. Example the much cherished chicken wings that you enjoyed may lose their quality if the restaurant had to scale up their operations to &#8220;Handle the Traffic&#8221;, lines would increase in size, parking could become a problem, hiring more personnel may be detrimental to food preparation quality. Even the most prepared IMers have suffered from overloaded servers, most recent major launches from big names like Mike Filsame among others have fallen prey. In this example of course recovery is usually faster on the internet than brick and mortar and without a quick recovery any progress made with high traffic will soon be wiped out by dissatisfied customers.</p>
<p>Summary: In my opinion WOM advertising has little value in the high speed world of the Internet and in the Brick and Mortar world as well.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.twitter.com/ronmai2" rel="nofollow">follow @ronmai2 on twitter</a><a></a></p>
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		<title>By: Pamela Jacob</title>
		<link>http://sitefling.com/blog/word-of-mouth-markeing-sucks/#comment-700</link>
		<dc:creator>Pamela Jacob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 19:43:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well - I believe if  you are in the service industry then there is nothing better than word of mouth. I have been so busy for the last 3 years from clients who recommend people who turn into clients. what better tracking method is that than work that is continual and money in the bank??

OF course if  you are depending on affiliate commissions or e-commerce --- Tracking is very very important - it is important period.

But I still stand by my reputation and word of mouth - after all isn&#039;t it a form of viral marketing??

:-)

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Pamela Jacob’s last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://artistadesign.com/creatingwealth/2009/03/22/are-you-guilty-of-stinkin-thinkin/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Are you guilty of stinkin thinkin??&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well &#8211; I believe if  you are in the service industry then there is nothing better than word of mouth. I have been so busy for the last 3 years from clients who recommend people who turn into clients. what better tracking method is that than work that is continual and money in the bank??</p>
<p>OF course if  you are depending on affiliate commissions or e-commerce &#8212; Tracking is very very important &#8211; it is important period.</p>
<p>But I still stand by my reputation and word of mouth &#8211; after all isn&#8217;t it a form of viral marketing??<br />
 <img src='http://sitefling.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p><abbr><em>Pamela Jacob’s last blog post..<a href="http://artistadesign.com/creatingwealth/2009/03/22/are-you-guilty-of-stinkin-thinkin/" rel="nofollow">Are you guilty of stinkin thinkin??</a></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://sitefling.com/blog/word-of-mouth-markeing-sucks/#comment-699</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 16:30:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Justin,

Great post, and even better debate here.  I just can&#039;t resist weighing in.

I think a lot of commenters have made some great points here.  Part of the debate, however, comes from the familiarity a majority of your readers have with marketing.

When you mention the local wing joint, or a local mechanic, or something along that line, you have to remember that a majority of those businesses are not opened by marketers.  Someone with a great wing recipe and some cooking talent probably opened that resturant.  Someone who was working as a mechanic in someone else&#039;s garage probably opened the new garage.

They are not marketers, or managers, the are as Michael Gerber described, technicians.  They are good at what they do, but know very little about running a successful business.  And the majority of them are bombarded every day with new places to advertise.

The problem here is they become overwhelmed.  They do some ads in the beginning, and put their name in the yellow pages.  Maybe they even get a website, but they don&#039;t know the first thing about marketing.  And they don&#039;t want to.

That is why many of the people reading this can also do well selling marketing services to these business owners.  If you can show them how you are bringing them more business and justify the expense for them, they will be happy.  A fortune to be made organizing and tracking marketing efforts for local businesses, both online and off.

When the get yet another call asking them to advertise in some local penny saver newspaper they never heard of, and they don&#039;t know the first thing about tracking, they don&#039;t know if it is a good idea or not, and after a while they feel like they are just wasting money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Justin,</p>
<p>Great post, and even better debate here.  I just can&#8217;t resist weighing in.</p>
<p>I think a lot of commenters have made some great points here.  Part of the debate, however, comes from the familiarity a majority of your readers have with marketing.</p>
<p>When you mention the local wing joint, or a local mechanic, or something along that line, you have to remember that a majority of those businesses are not opened by marketers.  Someone with a great wing recipe and some cooking talent probably opened that resturant.  Someone who was working as a mechanic in someone else&#8217;s garage probably opened the new garage.</p>
<p>They are not marketers, or managers, the are as Michael Gerber described, technicians.  They are good at what they do, but know very little about running a successful business.  And the majority of them are bombarded every day with new places to advertise.</p>
<p>The problem here is they become overwhelmed.  They do some ads in the beginning, and put their name in the yellow pages.  Maybe they even get a website, but they don&#8217;t know the first thing about marketing.  And they don&#8217;t want to.</p>
<p>That is why many of the people reading this can also do well selling marketing services to these business owners.  If you can show them how you are bringing them more business and justify the expense for them, they will be happy.  A fortune to be made organizing and tracking marketing efforts for local businesses, both online and off.</p>
<p>When the get yet another call asking them to advertise in some local penny saver newspaper they never heard of, and they don&#8217;t know the first thing about tracking, they don&#8217;t know if it is a good idea or not, and after a while they feel like they are just wasting money.</p>
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		<title>By: Wally</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wally</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 16:18:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No offense taken. But, the fact is we had more business than we could handle because of WOM. If we had actually been marketing our services we would have too quickly reached a point where - I believe - our services would have lost that &quot;personal touch&quot; with our clientele, and our reputation would have suffered. So, as long as WOM was working for us (and it still is, although to a lesser extent in this economy), there&#039;s no reason to change.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No offense taken. But, the fact is we had more business than we could handle because of WOM. If we had actually been marketing our services we would have too quickly reached a point where &#8211; I believe &#8211; our services would have lost that &#8220;personal touch&#8221; with our clientele, and our reputation would have suffered. So, as long as WOM was working for us (and it still is, although to a lesser extent in this economy), there&#8217;s no reason to change.</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
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		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 15:34:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope people are paying attention to the REAL traffic system in play here. Great stuff  ;D

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope people are paying attention to the REAL traffic system in play here. Great stuff  ;D</p>
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		<title>By: Wally</title>
		<link>http://sitefling.com/blog/word-of-mouth-markeing-sucks/#comment-696</link>
		<dc:creator>Wally</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 15:27:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Me again. After thinking about it a bit, I think I agree with Joshua above. WOM is an animal I don&#039;t think can really be planned - at least not in the traditional &quot;scientific&quot; sense. If you are good at what you do, and the right people notice it, it can be very powerful. But, asking someone to pump up you or your product, without &quot;it&quot; already having legs, should normally be an exercise in futility. WOM is like an unintentional &quot;super-Digg&quot;... it has - and SHOULD have - a life of its own.

As far as WOM being dead - well, that&#039;s just a load of BS. All you need is to have Oprah or some other celeb mention a website, and suddenly you have to upgrade your hosting account and bandwidth.

An interesting WOM advertising model would be this - start a WOM campaign, and then funnel money into whatever areas would pump up the WOM campaign itself.  Something like the &quot;pay it forward&quot; movement a couple years ago - if there was a product at the end of that (besides the movie/DVD), it could have been a real money maker....

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Me again. After thinking about it a bit, I think I agree with Joshua above. WOM is an animal I don&#8217;t think can really be planned &#8211; at least not in the traditional &#8220;scientific&#8221; sense. If you are good at what you do, and the right people notice it, it can be very powerful. But, asking someone to pump up you or your product, without &#8220;it&#8221; already having legs, should normally be an exercise in futility. WOM is like an unintentional &#8220;super-Digg&#8221;&#8230; it has &#8211; and SHOULD have &#8211; a life of its own.</p>
<p>As far as WOM being dead &#8211; well, that&#8217;s just a load of BS. All you need is to have Oprah or some other celeb mention a website, and suddenly you have to upgrade your hosting account and bandwidth.</p>
<p>An interesting WOM advertising model would be this &#8211; start a WOM campaign, and then funnel money into whatever areas would pump up the WOM campaign itself.  Something like the &#8220;pay it forward&#8221; movement a couple years ago &#8211; if there was a product at the end of that (besides the movie/DVD), it could have been a real money maker&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Justin Brooke</title>
		<link>http://sitefling.com/blog/word-of-mouth-markeing-sucks/#comment-695</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 15:15:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>See you at the workshop George!</description>
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		<title>By: Justin Brooke</title>
		<link>http://sitefling.com/blog/word-of-mouth-markeing-sucks/#comment-694</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin Brooke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 15:14:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Link baiting... Who&#039;s link baiting? ;-) (hee hee)

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Link baiting&#8230; Who&#8217;s link baiting? <img src='http://sitefling.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />  (hee hee)</p>
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		<title>By: Justin Brooke</title>
		<link>http://sitefling.com/blog/word-of-mouth-markeing-sucks/#comment-693</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin Brooke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 15:13:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AMEN BROTHER!

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		<title>By: Justin Brooke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Justin Brooke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 15:12:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please don&#039;t take offense to this, we all have to start somewhere and I applaud your determination. However, this is exactly what I was saying &quot;Not being a marketing expert... WOM gets me most of my business.&quot;
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WOM is free and requires no tools, but if you new how to use 10 other marketing systems effectively I&#039;ll bet they would drive much more traffic then your referrals. But then just the same if you add WOM on to those 10 marketing systems as a follow up tactic then you&#039;ll have explosive growth.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please don&#8217;t take offense to this, we all have to start somewhere and I applaud your determination. However, this is exactly what I was saying &#8220;Not being a marketing expert&#8230; WOM gets me most of my business.&#8221;<br />
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WOM is free and requires no tools, but if you new how to use 10 other marketing systems effectively I&#8217;ll bet they would drive much more traffic then your referrals. But then just the same if you add WOM on to those 10 marketing systems as a follow up tactic then you&#8217;ll have explosive growth.</p>
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		<title>By: Normal Joe</title>
		<link>http://sitefling.com/blog/word-of-mouth-markeing-sucks/#comment-691</link>
		<dc:creator>Normal Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 15:10:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yeah man, I&#039;ll take em all personally, but if you can get some good WOM  going all the better.

You&#039;ll still do fine without it, but with it you can do some outstanding things.

But you can&#039;t just say &quot;I&#039;m starting a wom campaign&quot; lol.  However, you can go setup an adwords campaign right now and see traffic pretty quick lol

use all the tools man! Use em all!

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yeah man, I&#8217;ll take em all personally, but if you can get some good WOM  going all the better.</p>
<p>You&#8217;ll still do fine without it, but with it you can do some outstanding things.</p>
<p>But you can&#8217;t just say &#8220;I&#8217;m starting a wom campaign&#8221; lol.  However, you can go setup an adwords campaign right now and see traffic pretty quick lol</p>
<p>use all the tools man! Use em all!</p>
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		<title>By: Justin Brooke</title>
		<link>http://sitefling.com/blog/word-of-mouth-markeing-sucks/#comment-690</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin Brooke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 15:07:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You make some great points, glad to have you around.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You make some great points, glad to have you around.</p>
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		<title>By: Justin Brooke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Justin Brooke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 15:06:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wouldn&#039;t you agree that if you had a #1 in Google, some PPC ads, road side signs, and join ventures with other businesses sending you referrals - That you would probably double the amount of clients you have?

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wouldn&#8217;t you agree that if you had a #1 in Google, some PPC ads, road side signs, and join ventures with other businesses sending you referrals &#8211; That you would probably double the amount of clients you have?</p>
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		<title>By: Justin Brooke</title>
		<link>http://sitefling.com/blog/word-of-mouth-markeing-sucks/#comment-688</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin Brooke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 15:03:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you&#039;ve got the argument in the bag... &quot;Never rely on just one form of marketing.&quot; If we only rely on Adwords - here comes a slap. If we only rely on WOM - what if it doesn&#039;t catch. We use a combination of SEO, PPC, Social Media, CPV, Banners, and Affiliates - it does well for us.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you&#8217;ve got the argument in the bag&#8230; &#8220;Never rely on just one form of marketing.&#8221; If we only rely on Adwords &#8211; here comes a slap. If we only rely on WOM &#8211; what if it doesn&#8217;t catch. We use a combination of SEO, PPC, Social Media, CPV, Banners, and Affiliates &#8211; it does well for us.</p>
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		<title>By: Justin Brooke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Justin Brooke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 15:01:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Definitely everyone wants WOM but just like you said.... If people stop talking. You see my Adwords account never stops talking unless I tell it too! ;-)

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Definitely everyone wants WOM but just like you said&#8230;. If people stop talking. You see my Adwords account never stops talking unless I tell it too! <img src='http://sitefling.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: George</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 11:21:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with you Justin.  Furthermore... I believe WOM was sentenced to die the minute the Radio came around.  TV was an other nail to the coffin and the Internet just put it six feet under.
The only &quot;surviving&quot; WOM today is if you are giving some sort of service.
If you&#039;re Joe PC and doing great fixing, repairing, etc you always will be getting people telling you &quot;Max&quot; told me you do a good job...&quot;
WOM ? Having Craigslist, ebay, Google, Kijiji, Oodle,USFreeadds, Walmart all for Free..?
Justin, I&#039;ll see you April 25th !
Cheers,
George from Miami</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with you Justin.  Furthermore&#8230; I believe WOM was sentenced to die the minute the Radio came around.  TV was an other nail to the coffin and the Internet just put it six feet under.<br />
The only &#8220;surviving&#8221; WOM today is if you are giving some sort of service.<br />
If you&#8217;re Joe PC and doing great fixing, repairing, etc you always will be getting people telling you &#8220;Max&#8221; told me you do a good job&#8230;&#8221;<br />
WOM ? Having Craigslist, ebay, Google, Kijiji, Oodle,USFreeadds, Walmart all for Free..?<br />
Justin, I&#8217;ll see you April 25th !<br />
Cheers,<br />
George from Miami</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
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		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 11:20:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Way off track .

You were eating in this place right?

  Why?

Did you see a google ad for it?

 NO!!!

Word of mouth is far more influential than other methods.

Get bad WOM and you are screwed!!!

I got six figure deals through WOM and just then an  email from someone who I knew 22 years ago emailed me to mention she was just talking about Internet Marketing and my name got mentioned.

Good controversial link bait blog post though - they work well too!!!

:D

Keep em coming!!


Regards

James

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Way off track .</p>
<p>You were eating in this place right?</p>
<p>  Why?</p>
<p>Did you see a google ad for it?</p>
<p> NO!!!</p>
<p>Word of mouth is far more influential than other methods.</p>
<p>Get bad WOM and you are screwed!!!</p>
<p>I got six figure deals through WOM and just then an  email from someone who I knew 22 years ago emailed me to mention she was just talking about Internet Marketing and my name got mentioned.</p>
<p>Good controversial link bait blog post though &#8211; they work well too!!!<br />
 <img src='http://sitefling.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Keep em coming!!</p>
<p>Regards</p>
<p>James</p>
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