As your business grows or as you get more and more serious about succeeding with your business you’re going to need to hire some assistants. Justin and I have been through our fair share of assistants, and if you’ve ever heard Justin speak about his first assistant you’ll know that it was a hard lesson learned. The guy new nothing, Justin spent so much time training and prodding the assistant along that we wasted hundreds of dollars and hours of time.
Since then we’ve built a process for hiring assistants and outsourcers and I’ve landed some outstanding assistants. We’ve built such a great team, that Justin and I are often asked how we’re finding these high quality people. So I thought today I’d cover a lot of the questions I’ve been asked so that you can overcome the fear of outsourcing and start moving forward with your business.
Q: Where do you hire assistants & outsourcers?
A: I have two places I hire from frequently. First is Scriptlance.com, the other is Craigslist.com. There are other sites, but these are the two that work for me so I have never found a reason to go anywhere else.
Q: How do you choose between hiring from Craigslist.com or Scriptlance?
A: When I am looking to hire an assistant (someone that works part time or fulltime) I go to Craigslist.com. I have found that on Craigslist.com people looking for work at Craigslist.com are looking for long term work that’s either part time or fulltime. Whereas, the assistants/outsourcers at a site like Scriptlance are looking for project work. Don’t get me wrong, the outsourcers you find at Scriptlance could be interested in fulltime work, however many of them have a team that all work to fulfill projects fulltime – instead of working fulltime for one person.
Q: How do you find a “good” assistant?
A: this is a great question – and one that’s hard to answer because each person is looking for an assistant to different tasks. You’re also going to be a different type of boss than I will, however I’ll do my best at telling you what I look for. First, I am looking for an applicant (or bidder) that has “hustle”. What I mean by “hustle” is that they are willing to go above what I asked for and give me the next step up. They didn’t make a complaint, they weren’t cocky about what I was expecting, they just did what I asked and then took it another step further.
For example, my full time personal assistant, knows I like things documented – she also knows that I live off of spreadsheets – so anytime she does a task that has multiple inputs (such as creating multiple websites with different log in information) she automatically documents each site, the login info and links everything in the spreadsheet for me. I didn’t have to ask her for it – I just asked her to create the websites and she knew that I’d like to have all that info together so she “hustled” to be on top of what I like as a boss. You’re going to look for an applicant that hustles either with their bid, or by submitting their application (we’ll talk more about this in a minute).
Q: When outsourcing on sites like Scriptlance, how do you pick one?
A: This question requires a specific example and is WAY too long to type out. So I create a quick video of my last Scriptlance project so you can see how I chose and the thought process that goes into hiring on Scriptlance.
Picking A Bid On Scriptlance.com
Q: At what point in your business should you consider outsourcing?
A: From day 1. Now, Justin is going to hate me for this because he went 2 years before I “let” him outsource. You see when he first started, we were living on a $1300/month budget for our 3 person family. That isn’t much – in fact it JUST covered the necessities and very little luxuries. So when he would ask to spend money to hire someone to do a task for him, I would say “cant you just do that yourself”
What I didn’t get at the time was that while someone was doing that task, Justin could have been working on another task therefor killing two stones in one. He also didn’t have to learn how to get that task done. This is a very hard lessons – especially for those that are already on a tight budget. My suggestion to you, if you have NO budget for outsourcing is to “hustle” to make your first sale – then reinvest 75% of that into an outsourcing budget so that you can get more work done in less time.
Also, look over your budget – there’s often $50 that you can cut out and use towards your outsourcing costs. For $50, you can get videos transcribed, a website install, logo designs, product graphics, the list goes on. $50 can be the answer to getting you over your hurtle – instead of spending $50 on an ebook that shows you how to make graphics – spend the $50 and get the graphics done for you so that you can move on to another project that will make you money.
Q: How much money coming in should you have before outsourcing?
A: As I mentioned above there are loads of tasks that you can get outsourced for less than $50, so you should be able to outsource as soon as you get serious about making money online. However, when it comes to hiring full time or part time assistants you’re going to want to make sure you’re costs are covered. If you have a startup budget, plan an assistant into your budget so that you’re getting the most of your money. If you’re anything like Justin and me, you don’t have a start up budget for your online ventures.. so you’re going to wait to hire a full time assistant until you can justify the costs. Start by outsourcing small projects in the beginning and when you’re making enough to cover their costs without digging into your household budget then hire a part time assistant that you can move to full time when things start to fly for you.
Q: How would hire a writer/assistant – a person who can do both?
A: To be honest I haven’t hired a person to do both from the starting point. My personal assistant started out as a part time writer. After 1 month I moved her to full time writing. Then she would ask me (constantly) if there was anything else she could do for me. So I asked her if she knew how to transcribe. She said she had done it once before, but would love to try it out again. From there she started writing and transcribing for me. Then I added on a few miscellaneous tasks like creating Weebly pages, submitting her articles to article directories etc.
Finally, because her English was so good and she seemed like she could think on her feet I decided to try her out with support emails for our membership site. When she did well with that I decided to bring her on as full time assistant and started creating short videos (using jingprogect.com) that would teach her how to do all the miscellaneous tasks I needed an assistant to do on the spot when I couldn’t.
If you were looking to hire someone, make a list of all the tasks you need them to do on a daily/weekly basis. Put those tasks in your job listing so that they know what you’re looking for – if you don’t list the type of tasks they’ll be doing then you’ll have writers applying for tasks that may be more technical (or vice versa).
The way I see it, is I’ll hire a writer first – because that is the task that is most time consuming and required skill. Then I’ll train the writer to do the technical tasks like submissions and posting to blogs/websites. If you went the other way around and hired a tech assistant and asked them to write they may not be able to.
Q: What to look for when hiring, which bid to take if there’s multiple offers.
A: When I am hiring I look for the bid that stands out in the crowd. They have sent me a private message they wrote a personal response to my ad – so I know they actually read it. They may have even created a mockup (if it was for a design project).
Earlier today I caught a twitter message that linked over to this interview. The CEO of Elance.com, Fabio Rosati describes how to find and hire outsourcers online. He gives some great tips for hiring, but I especially liked when he covered the “types of people that rely on freelance/online assistant jobs.”
BusinessWeek interview with Fabio Rosati CEO of Elance.com
Some Tips Fro My Expereinces:
- When hiring list all the tasks you need done. Then group together common tasks and hire for the specific group. Hire a writer to handle all the tasks that require fluent writer. If you’re looking for backlinks, submissions, website installation/editing then hire a technical assistant.
- Test out an outsourcer first with a small project – then bring them on for a longer term if they do well. A couple of times I’ve hired a person for a project and when they did well I asked if I could keep their information for future projects. Then I would write them and say I have 4 projects this month are you available to do them all? This works out well for having a handful of assistants that you can rely on because you know their work quality and they know what you’re expecting.
- Check out their prior work and reviews – Scriptlance.com and other sites like them have a great system. They allow each outsourcer to create a profile where they can upload portfolios and sample work. On those profiles you can also view their reviews. I highly suggest checking out those reviews to find out more about the programmer if you’re unsure on whether to pick them over another. I normally only do this when I have two programmers with similar prices and feedback and I just need a little more info to make my decision.
- Downtime – what should your assistant do when you havent assigned a project
Backlinks, writing articles, etc. I also have a “misc task” for my assistants so that there is never any wasted time. They know that if for some reason I they haven’t heard form me that day and dont have a project to work on then they should fill their time by bookmarking posts on my blog or writing articles on a list of keywords I’m targeting.
I’ve tried hard to cover a lot of the specific details from my experiences with hiring and training assistants. There’s obviously loads more we can cover, but this should get you going in the right direction. I’m not sure why but many people have fears about outsourcing, but as I mentioned in my last post – it’s just the “Fear of the Unknown” – once you get going you’ll see that it’s not so bad and actually very helpful!
All it takes is action!

{ 23 comments… read them below or add one }
Hey Chaunna, thanks for the article! It’s something I’ve been looking into for a little while.
You say that your favorites are craigslist and scriptlance, but you also link to the interview about elance.
What do you think about elance.com and guru.com?
Thank you
-Neal
Neal’s last blog post..That’s cool you’re teaching yo…
Hey Neal,
I thought the interview with Fabio from elance was a great view into the behind the scenes of these freelance websites. I have used elance.com in the past. From my experiences the bids on elance are always higher (let say average around $50) than the ones on scriptlance (let say average around $20) . So I recommend for those on a tight budget to start on scriptlance.
Have a great day
Chaunna
Shaunna your tips are excellent!
I want to add emphasis on what you said in this interview: The biggest mistake beginners make is failing to see the cost of their own time.
Outsourcing someone for $50 to do something in few hours that would take them a month to complete themselves like setting up a e-commerce script properly, make them feel that they are losing $50.
In fact, they are loosing way more than that by not doing it, simply because after paying for those $50, they would have been able to start their business right away and have a full month to generate income instead of browsing the online forum wondering what “changing permission” on files means…
Nicolas Prudhon’s last blog post..24 Power Blogging WordPress Plugins
Hey Nicolas,
I totally have to agree with you here. outsourcing can get you started today – whereas if you focus on doing everything yourself to “save a buck” then you end up losing a bunch of bucks in the end because it took you months to get up and running instead of weeks (with outsourcing).
Have a great day
Chaunna
Great post… I don’t need an assistant yet but it’s good to know what i need to know because i want one when i need one a.s.a.p!
Hey David,
You may not need a fulltime assistant yet, but outsourcing small projects will get you moving much faster. Scriptlance could still be a great help for you.
Have a great day
Chaunna
Hey Chaunna,
Great Article.
Both Lyn and I felt like we would NEVER get any where as we were trying to do everything ourselves and honestly it does not work, you do chase your tail. Talking to Justin on the phone and devouring everything you both wrote and the forum, it was made very clear to us. OUTSOURCE or wait years for success.
Like you said in your article, you can always find the money by looking at your budget!
We made a conscious decision and sat down and looked at the budget. We managed to find money by cutting back on several things. BINGO. $55.00 to put aside to outsource. So we got started.
We hired from Scriptlance – A delightful lady to do backlinks, she was good, we now use her on a regular basis.
Also from Scriptlance – Another delightful lady to do Articles and Press Releases. Now use her on a regular basis.
Then another person from Scriptlance to Tweak a couple of websites.
We now make sure we have monies put aside to outsource, as the results in the last 5 weeks have been OUTSTANDING.
Yes we still have to budget, however, we know that if we keep on track and DO NOT DEVIATE we will be up there with the best.
Guys, trust what Chaunna and Justin tell you – OUTSOURCING is not that hard, you can find money in your budget to get it (Chaunna maybe we can have a brainstorm on how to cut the budget with everyone putting in their tips) the results in your business growth will be outstanding by getting others to do the time consuming bits (working in) whilst YOU WORK ON!
Love and Light and a toast to everyones success
Maggie’s last blog post..Tick Toc Goes the Clock
Hey Maggie,
Thanks for the compliments and backing up the post
I love how much you have taken action and applied what you’ve learned. When Justin and I first started we cut out an entire month of “luxury activities” like going to the movies and fleamarket shopping on the weekends so that we could have an extra $100 to spend on the business that month. The returns are much higher when things get done faster.
Have a great day
Chaunna
Fantastic Chaunna,
What a wickedly huge information laden Blog Post.
Thoroughly enjoyed the read and gained HEAPS of Great FREE info as usual, and as You Guy’s had promised.
NOTHING Better than People ” Of Their Word “.
Keep it coming please
Kind Regards
Tony
Tony Markx’s last blog post..Niche Empires – Branding Basics
Hey Tony,
Thanks for the compliment – I am really glad you enjoyed the post
Have a great day
Chaunna
Hey Chaunna,
Thanks for the writeup – & Addressing hiring a writer / assistant in the one.
Very valuable advice!
Ant.
Hey Ant,
No problem. If you send in topics I’ll add them to my list and make sure they get covered
Thanks for reading
Have a great day
Chaunna
Hey Chaunna
Thanks for the great tips.
I do find it hard to justify the cost of outsourcing because our budget is pretty tight at the moment.
And I do enjoy doing alot of the stuff myself so its not really a drag.
But I do have projects that I would like to move further along.
Have to have another look at that budget and find some extra room.
Thanks again for the great advice
Steve
Hey Steve,
I’d definitely give your budget a hard look, i am sure there’s a way to squeeze out $20 – $75 for outsourcing so your projects move faster. Remember – it may be a task you like, but to be successful in business you should be working on your business not working in it. By doing the tasks yourself you aren’t focusing on how to make money, your focus is on how to build it.
To your success!
Chaunna
Chaunna,
Great Post. I have run a small business for 30 years. I have found the old rule of one in three. I usually got one good employee out of three hires. Often the ones I was most impressed with at first were not the best long term.
Rick
Rick Wordpress Builder’s last blog post..Build your own Membership Site?
Hey Rick,
I agree, you will have your ups and downs with hiring. Which is why i suggest starting with small projects – if they do that well, then bring them on fulltime.
Have a great day
Chaunna
Thanks for the clear simple explanation – am looking for ward to more of the same – maybe some day I can return the favor.
Another great post for outsourcing. I might be thinking of hiring one to build backlinks for my site. But for now, I do think that I have to write more articles for Google to index it a lot.
And probably network with fellow bloggers offline to see those faces behind those URLs.
Millionaire Acts’s last blog post..Power of Positive Thinking
Hi
hiring for backlinks is a great idea – especially if you’re going to be writing articles you can outsource the sitefling process from (FlingAndGrowRich.com) in order to get more payout from those articles…
Have a great day
Chaunna
Hi Chaunna,
You have restored my faith in outsourcing. I believe, in fact I know it is the way to go but I haven’t had a great deal of success to date. I have outsourced articles only to end up rewriting them myself and a website that was never finished. (I was annoyed as I had paid 50% deposit)
However, after reading your comments I realise I am at fault, I need to be more precise and selective. Armed with new knowledge I will have another go, I have been procrastinating.
When people think of outsourcing it is often presumed that it is for cost alone. Of course that is one reason, but not solely. The World is rapidly becoming one big market place whether we like it or not . We trade everything offshore these days, it is only natural that we recruit offshore.
I have business interests in VietNam and i know outsourcing to developing countries does more good than harm, especially in the IT industry.
It was just by chance that I landed on your blog tonight and have found it very interesting reading to say the least. I spend a lot of time in IM forums and get loads of knowledge about keywords etc but things like outsourcing/assistants which are the core of any successful business are rarely discussed.
I have enjoyed my first time here, ty
Cheers,
Tricia
Thanks for this post–I have found pretty good luck with Craigslist in terms of finding people who actually have pretty good experience. Digital Point Forums is a decent place to go if you can wade through countless threads–but I have found several good writers there. I would recommend checking that site out for other people looking for assistance.
Chris’s last blog post..3 Reasons to Start an Online Business
Hi Chaunna and Justin,
I enjoy everything that you two write. I found your series of posts about “where to find outsourced employees” really really helpful. By the way, why dont you increase the number of videos as well.
Ghengis’s last blog post..Outsourcing and Understanding Its Benefits for Webmasters
Hello Chaunna,
First I would like to say that I am so glad you guys did a follow up article on outsourcing. I am a new reader and Justin’s guest blog on ShoeMoney is what lead me to your site.
Secondly, I have been doing some article writing outsourcing for part-time workers only. I have been using getafreelancer.com.
However, when I tried to take your advice and advertise for a full time writer on Craigslist, my add was immediately “ghosted”. Your account says that your post is on Craigslist, but in never shows up. There is a post about here. http://reviews411.wordpress.com/2008/05/12/craigslist-ad-not-showing-up-its-called-ad-ghosting/
This is exactly what has happened to me. Do you have any simple advice on how to work around this? Has it happened to you?
I hope my question isn’t too far down to be noticed. I am a little frustrated because I want to try craigslist; but, I just can’t get an add up!
Thanks again for the informative post.
Best,
Bridget
{ 1 trackback }