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		<title>By: Darlene</title>
		<link>http://sitefling.com/blog/battle-of-the-internet-business-models/comment-page-1/#comment-3112</link>
		<dc:creator>Darlene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 09:56:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Shane_k that you have to leverage your efforts.  Jay if you have so many ideas and you need CF there was a post that indicated an answer, if you read it.  Do you know how to raise private funds?  If not, I suggest you research the subject if that kind of money is needed for your venture.  Many people in many businesses have raised money for their business plans.  You don&#039;t have to go it alone, but you do have to do your due diligence to get them interested in your project.  First you have to decide what your business is and then your business plan and how you will fund it.  That goes for on or off-line businesses.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Shane_k that you have to leverage your efforts.  Jay if you have so many ideas and you need CF there was a post that indicated an answer, if you read it.  Do you know how to raise private funds?  If not, I suggest you research the subject if that kind of money is needed for your venture.  Many people in many businesses have raised money for their business plans.  You don&#8217;t have to go it alone, but you do have to do your due diligence to get them interested in your project.  First you have to decide what your business is and then your business plan and how you will fund it.  That goes for on or off-line businesses.</p>
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		<title>By: internet-business</title>
		<link>http://sitefling.com/blog/battle-of-the-internet-business-models/comment-page-1/#comment-2882</link>
		<dc:creator>internet-business</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 10:29:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s Good. Thanks So Much for Your Information

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;internet-business’s last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://best-net-bussines.blogspot.com/2009/06/trick-to-increase-traffic-or-visitor.html&quot;&gt;Trick to Increase Traffic or Visitor.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s Good. Thanks So Much for Your Information</p>
<p><abbr><em>internet-business’s last blog post..<a href="http://best-net-bussines.blogspot.com/2009/06/trick-to-increase-traffic-or-visitor.html">Trick to Increase Traffic or Visitor.</a></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: Clint</title>
		<link>http://sitefling.com/blog/battle-of-the-internet-business-models/comment-page-1/#comment-2109</link>
		<dc:creator>Clint</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 23:21:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Glad I could help there Justin,  I never got to the review site... I was just saying... there has to be more than a handful of them out there. So how would one make it work. I guess by split testing and full tracking... right? lol  My initial look at this market was with PPC and google adwords in order to try and find out if the niche was even worth getting into.. Needless to say, after $250 of adwords pulling the plug is what I did with not even one sale. At the time I was sending them right to the  landing page of the clickbank product.  You would think that this would at least get one sale.  I am sure I did absolutely nothing right with the whole process  even though I followed the course instructions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glad I could help there Justin,  I never got to the review site&#8230; I was just saying&#8230; there has to be more than a handful of them out there. So how would one make it work. I guess by split testing and full tracking&#8230; right? lol  My initial look at this market was with PPC and google adwords in order to try and find out if the niche was even worth getting into.. Needless to say, after $250 of adwords pulling the plug is what I did with not even one sale. At the time I was sending them right to the  landing page of the clickbank product.  You would think that this would at least get one sale.  I am sure I did absolutely nothing right with the whole process  even though I followed the course instructions.</p>
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		<title>By: Justin Brooke</title>
		<link>http://sitefling.com/blog/battle-of-the-internet-business-models/comment-page-1/#comment-2108</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin Brooke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 23:11:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Affiliate marketing is all about testing offers... How many different review pages do you have out there? How many of them do you have full tracking on? How many of those landing pages are you running split-tests on?

You know what... Your blog comment just inspired my next blog post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Affiliate marketing is all about testing offers&#8230; How many different review pages do you have out there? How many of them do you have full tracking on? How many of those landing pages are you running split-tests on?</p>
<p>You know what&#8230; Your blog comment just inspired my next blog post.</p>
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		<title>By: Clint</title>
		<link>http://sitefling.com/blog/battle-of-the-internet-business-models/comment-page-1/#comment-2104</link>
		<dc:creator>Clint</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 20:57:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Donovan,

This is where I think I am at... Don&#039;t know what to do to get started and see results.  I don&#039;t want to pick something and then waste money, and beat my head against the wall trying to figure out what to do to become profitable in that niche.  I tried the No-nonsense abs and Truth about abs programs, and that is what I did.. wasted money and then got discouraged.  There has to be a way to figure out a sub niche for the more popular niches so that one can have a chance at being profitable. Weight loss / diet niche is big enough, but what could the sub niche under that be? How do you figure that out... and then what to do once you get there?  I know there are probably a couple dozen review sites under the weight loss / diet niche so how do you distinguish yours from the others and make it stand out and convert?

Regards, Clint</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Donovan,</p>
<p>This is where I think I am at&#8230; Don&#8217;t know what to do to get started and see results.  I don&#8217;t want to pick something and then waste money, and beat my head against the wall trying to figure out what to do to become profitable in that niche.  I tried the No-nonsense abs and Truth about abs programs, and that is what I did.. wasted money and then got discouraged.  There has to be a way to figure out a sub niche for the more popular niches so that one can have a chance at being profitable. Weight loss / diet niche is big enough, but what could the sub niche under that be? How do you figure that out&#8230; and then what to do once you get there?  I know there are probably a couple dozen review sites under the weight loss / diet niche so how do you distinguish yours from the others and make it stand out and convert?</p>
<p>Regards, Clint</p>
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		<title>By: DonovanMc</title>
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		<dc:creator>DonovanMc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 15:57:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Justin,
There are so many who have hit paid dirt using different models that makes me think that any model can work.  As a newbie my problem is in choosing a model that fits with my personality and beliefs. In the past I would jump on the band wagon of anything that looked good. The problem was that I had no idea that any one of them would work if I gotten a mentor and stuck with their model.

We all have to find where we are in our business and what is needed to get us to the next level.  We can be persistent, have the determination build a team and take action. But if we are using the wrong system/model/road map or what ever you call it, we will not be as successful as we could be.   

Justin, I&#039;m going to take the liberty to add to something you said in your post by saying; If you don&#039;t begin and stay on the right path you won&#039;t get any of the rewards. ( &quot;If you don’t know what it takes then you can’t even begin. If you can’t even begin then you don’t get any of the rewards. No traffic, no money, no exposure… Nothing!&quot;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Justin,<br />
There are so many who have hit paid dirt using different models that makes me think that any model can work.  As a newbie my problem is in choosing a model that fits with my personality and beliefs. In the past I would jump on the band wagon of anything that looked good. The problem was that I had no idea that any one of them would work if I gotten a mentor and stuck with their model.</p>
<p>We all have to find where we are in our business and what is needed to get us to the next level.  We can be persistent, have the determination build a team and take action. But if we are using the wrong system/model/road map or what ever you call it, we will not be as successful as we could be.   </p>
<p>Justin, I&#8217;m going to take the liberty to add to something you said in your post by saying; If you don&#8217;t begin and stay on the right path you won&#8217;t get any of the rewards. ( &#8220;If you don’t know what it takes then you can’t even begin. If you can’t even begin then you don’t get any of the rewards. No traffic, no money, no exposure… Nothing!&#8221;)</p>
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		<title>By: Ricky</title>
		<link>http://sitefling.com/blog/battle-of-the-internet-business-models/comment-page-1/#comment-1905</link>
		<dc:creator>Ricky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Apr 2009 14:43:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Although your comments were very insightful, indeed, and peeks into the character of those building money-making enterprises in the Web, some of us in this blog would like to hear the actual model(s) you prefer, specially if coming from a multiple 9 figure earner. Mind sharing this? The reason is that this question posted by Justin is making people think and we all benefit from the answers. Your take on personal development issues is actually excellent,  but your take on which model(s) is missing. I am not sure there are that many multiple 9 figure earners&#039; opinions, which surely can make of yours a significant one.  Would you oblige? This is a question that merits finding all sort of marketer&#039;s opinions.

Ricky</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Although your comments were very insightful, indeed, and peeks into the character of those building money-making enterprises in the Web, some of us in this blog would like to hear the actual model(s) you prefer, specially if coming from a multiple 9 figure earner. Mind sharing this? The reason is that this question posted by Justin is making people think and we all benefit from the answers. Your take on personal development issues is actually excellent,  but your take on which model(s) is missing. I am not sure there are that many multiple 9 figure earners&#8217; opinions, which surely can make of yours a significant one.  Would you oblige? This is a question that merits finding all sort of marketer&#8217;s opinions.</p>
<p>Ricky</p>
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		<title>By: Rick Prepaid Cell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rick Prepaid Cell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Apr 2009 11:55:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Finishing...

The difference between a hobbyist and a pro is the pro finishes the job.  The hobbyist never gets the house remodel job done,  (oh Honey I am almost done, I just have the trim to paint and put up in the living room) never stays on a project long enough to make money.  

Rick

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Rick Prepaid Cell’s last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://pay-as-you-go-cellular-usa.com/net-10-unlimited-calling-plan/&quot;&gt;Net 10 Unlimited Calling Plan&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Finishing&#8230;</p>
<p>The difference between a hobbyist and a pro is the pro finishes the job.  The hobbyist never gets the house remodel job done,  (oh Honey I am almost done, I just have the trim to paint and put up in the living room) never stays on a project long enough to make money.  </p>
<p>Rick</p>
<p><abbr><em>Rick Prepaid Cell’s last blog post..<a href="http://pay-as-you-go-cellular-usa.com/net-10-unlimited-calling-plan/">Net 10 Unlimited Calling Plan</a></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: Needmoney.com</title>
		<link>http://sitefling.com/blog/battle-of-the-internet-business-models/comment-page-1/#comment-1742</link>
		<dc:creator>Needmoney.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 23:44:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Getting retarded-big:

1) Have a great idea.

2) Realize it first.

3) Have people realize you&#039;ve realized it first.

4) Scale.

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Needmoney.com’s last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/needmoney/ufju/~3/hPfp-X1mr2s/&quot;&gt;Traffic: Search Engine Optimization - SEO&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Getting retarded-big:</p>
<p>1) Have a great idea.</p>
<p>2) Realize it first.</p>
<p>3) Have people realize you&#8217;ve realized it first.</p>
<p>4) Scale.</p>
<p><abbr><em>Needmoney.com’s last blog post..<a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/needmoney/ufju/~3/hPfp-X1mr2s/">Traffic: Search Engine Optimization &#8211; SEO</a></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
		<link>http://sitefling.com/blog/battle-of-the-internet-business-models/comment-page-1/#comment-1741</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 23:36:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Justin,
I just recently found your blog and I&#039;m very impressed. Your posts are compelling and well articulated.

One of the most intriguing models to me is one where the content is user generated. You build the infrastructure and your user base adds the content. 

One example that comes to mind is plentyoffish.com. According to the much publicized Jan 09 article in Inc. magazine, Markus Frind - the site&#039;s owner makes about $10 million annually.

Another popular example would be hotornot.com.

I don&#039;t mean to trivialize what it takes to build this type of site but I think that if you find the right niche and build and market it correctly &quot;they will come&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Justin,<br />
I just recently found your blog and I&#8217;m very impressed. Your posts are compelling and well articulated.</p>
<p>One of the most intriguing models to me is one where the content is user generated. You build the infrastructure and your user base adds the content. </p>
<p>One example that comes to mind is plentyoffish.com. According to the much publicized Jan 09 article in Inc. magazine, Markus Frind &#8211; the site&#8217;s owner makes about $10 million annually.</p>
<p>Another popular example would be hotornot.com.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t mean to trivialize what it takes to build this type of site but I think that if you find the right niche and build and market it correctly &#8220;they will come&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Clint</title>
		<link>http://sitefling.com/blog/battle-of-the-internet-business-models/comment-page-1/#comment-1740</link>
		<dc:creator>Clint</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 23:24:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Haha, I think he meant split testing with the abc&#039;s Justin... lol</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Haha, I think he meant split testing with the abc&#8217;s Justin&#8230; lol</p>
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		<title>By: Clint</title>
		<link>http://sitefling.com/blog/battle-of-the-internet-business-models/comment-page-1/#comment-1739</link>
		<dc:creator>Clint</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 23:22:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Definitely better with the images!  I really like this blog Justin, its the only thing I have been focusing with online lately... Thanks Buddy!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Definitely better with the images!  I really like this blog Justin, its the only thing I have been focusing with online lately&#8230; Thanks Buddy!</p>
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		<title>By: Clint</title>
		<link>http://sitefling.com/blog/battle-of-the-internet-business-models/comment-page-1/#comment-1738</link>
		<dc:creator>Clint</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 23:20:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think Ray could have put any more cliche&#039;s in there if he tried! lol Great post Ray, I bet you could make an e-book out of that if you expanded out even more!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think Ray could have put any more cliche&#8217;s in there if he tried! lol Great post Ray, I bet you could make an e-book out of that if you expanded out even more!</p>
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		<title>By: Clint</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clint</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 23:13:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do you think that is why they say the 2 to 5 year plan then? Takes that long to master something enough to get really really good at it...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you think that is why they say the 2 to 5 year plan then? Takes that long to master something enough to get really really good at it&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Clint</title>
		<link>http://sitefling.com/blog/battle-of-the-internet-business-models/comment-page-1/#comment-1736</link>
		<dc:creator>Clint</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 23:09:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having a life long student mindset helps, always willing to listen, ask questions and learn. Great words to live by.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having a life long student mindset helps, always willing to listen, ask questions and learn. Great words to live by.</p>
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		<title>By: Clint</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clint</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 23:04:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bad stigma and the fact that you have to keep your troops rallied.. There is nothing to be made from a 10,000 person downline that does not produce anything.  Not to mention the fact that so many people feel used from the whole business.  For example, when Flashnet sold off to Prodigy all the distributors got the carpet yanked out from under them, and not even a sorry we have sold the business and all the money you were making is now gone.. Sure the owner was happy cuz he just banked some tall cash but they always forget about the little guy don&#039;t they?  Rant Off! Talk to you soon!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bad stigma and the fact that you have to keep your troops rallied.. There is nothing to be made from a 10,000 person downline that does not produce anything.  Not to mention the fact that so many people feel used from the whole business.  For example, when Flashnet sold off to Prodigy all the distributors got the carpet yanked out from under them, and not even a sorry we have sold the business and all the money you were making is now gone.. Sure the owner was happy cuz he just banked some tall cash but they always forget about the little guy don&#8217;t they?  Rant Off! Talk to you soon!</p>
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		<title>By: Keepit onde Downlow</title>
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		<dc:creator>Keepit onde Downlow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 21:40:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Justin,

This is a nice little dance that is going on here
so I thought I would step out on the floor and
join in.

The right question is worth spending time on.

Growing a net worth to monster levels (or 
achieving a certain lifestyle) has more to 
do with who rather than what plus a bit of
luck.

I have been fortunate to have made (and lose once) 9
figures multiple times.  I also get to be in the company
of those that have done the same or figured out how to 
achieve the lifestyle without hitting the money mark.

I will spew forth what was told to me a decade ago when 
I was broke but hungry.

It is about being.  That is it.  The big secret.  Game over.

It all ties into the integrity of who you are.  I have watched 
partners who were brilliant in business self-destruct because of
a character issue they just could not face.  Often it was a slow erosion
of something that was way under the surface covered by
years of incredible performance in other areas.  I was one 
of those.

I had to lose everything and face the truths about me.  It took 
more courage than any business risk or venture I had faced.  
To move to the next level I had to wrestle with the demons
that kept showing up in my life.  I had to be passionate
and obsessive about the clearing out of belief systems 
and thinking that ate at my core.  Even the small things.

All those in my peer group have some things in common:
--None  make it a habit to escape from painful 
realities (whether that be through drug use, sex, food,
smoking, ect).  Notice how that is phrased.  

--Truth (seeking what is real)  is a group and individual
practice.  They keep their word to others.  More
importantly they keep it to themselves as in:
I am going to get up at 5 a.m. Done.

-- All lead healthy/fit lifestyles not for looks but for energy 
and a vibrant life.

--Send time in the company of friends daily.

--Laugh.  Alot.

--Dedicated to encouraging/talking/being about
growth.
 
--Gentle with themselves when failures and mistakes happen but
hard on the issue.

--Tend to believe that they are 100% responsible for all things 
in their lives.  Rarely is there victim mentality.  (If you can&#039;t
own it you can&#039;t solve it).

They read and its high quality. 

They don&#039;t have much idle passive time.

They practice some sort of &#039;centering&#039; activity daily (religion or
meditation, art, exercise, watching the sunrise).

They are curious and when they find something 
they want to do they start at zero.  They chase learning until
they get diminishing returns.

Here are some character traits I see in them:

Courageous.  They ask directly for what they want.
If they do not get it then at least they practiced courage
which is now stronger as the result.

They seek truth at all times knowing it is less painful 
than avoiding it.

They practice compassion and lots of love.

They believe in their ability to author and create
their own lives.

They gather people around them that support them
and do so in return.

Through the practice of truth they are really good
at discerning what is junk science/psychology and 
where the good stuff is.

Seeing your story on youtube moves me to think you
are on a path I took.  It inspired me and took me
back to the last line of powder I hit that numbed
me to the personal pain I felt.  I am encouraged
by your movement.

The answers to which biz model is best for you 
(or why not all as part of a multi-national corp)
will become more clear to you while you 
dedicate yourself  to facing those things
in your life that need to be addressed.

Gather a team (friends, coaches, therapists) around
you that will be absolutely honest with you.
Go through the pain.  Grow.  

Very few executives come to me about business
problems.  Most come to me because of personal
or people issues.  They say biz stuff is often
easily solved.  

I look forward to watching your journey.
Who knows, maybe we can meet up sometime
and talk about this very time in our lives.

(The character traits are loosely joined from Steve Pavlina&#039;s
Personal development for Smart People)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Justin,</p>
<p>This is a nice little dance that is going on here<br />
so I thought I would step out on the floor and<br />
join in.</p>
<p>The right question is worth spending time on.</p>
<p>Growing a net worth to monster levels (or<br />
achieving a certain lifestyle) has more to<br />
do with who rather than what plus a bit of<br />
luck.</p>
<p>I have been fortunate to have made (and lose once) 9<br />
figures multiple times.  I also get to be in the company<br />
of those that have done the same or figured out how to<br />
achieve the lifestyle without hitting the money mark.</p>
<p>I will spew forth what was told to me a decade ago when<br />
I was broke but hungry.</p>
<p>It is about being.  That is it.  The big secret.  Game over.</p>
<p>It all ties into the integrity of who you are.  I have watched<br />
partners who were brilliant in business self-destruct because of<br />
a character issue they just could not face.  Often it was a slow erosion<br />
of something that was way under the surface covered by<br />
years of incredible performance in other areas.  I was one<br />
of those.</p>
<p>I had to lose everything and face the truths about me.  It took<br />
more courage than any business risk or venture I had faced.<br />
To move to the next level I had to wrestle with the demons<br />
that kept showing up in my life.  I had to be passionate<br />
and obsessive about the clearing out of belief systems<br />
and thinking that ate at my core.  Even the small things.</p>
<p>All those in my peer group have some things in common:<br />
&#8211;None  make it a habit to escape from painful<br />
realities (whether that be through drug use, sex, food,<br />
smoking, ect).  Notice how that is phrased.  </p>
<p>&#8211;Truth (seeking what is real)  is a group and individual<br />
practice.  They keep their word to others.  More<br />
importantly they keep it to themselves as in:<br />
I am going to get up at 5 a.m. Done.</p>
<p>&#8211; All lead healthy/fit lifestyles not for looks but for energy<br />
and a vibrant life.</p>
<p>&#8211;Send time in the company of friends daily.</p>
<p>&#8211;Laugh.  Alot.</p>
<p>&#8211;Dedicated to encouraging/talking/being about<br />
growth.</p>
<p>&#8211;Gentle with themselves when failures and mistakes happen but<br />
hard on the issue.</p>
<p>&#8211;Tend to believe that they are 100% responsible for all things<br />
in their lives.  Rarely is there victim mentality.  (If you can&#8217;t<br />
own it you can&#8217;t solve it).</p>
<p>They read and its high quality. </p>
<p>They don&#8217;t have much idle passive time.</p>
<p>They practice some sort of &#8216;centering&#8217; activity daily (religion or<br />
meditation, art, exercise, watching the sunrise).</p>
<p>They are curious and when they find something<br />
they want to do they start at zero.  They chase learning until<br />
they get diminishing returns.</p>
<p>Here are some character traits I see in them:</p>
<p>Courageous.  They ask directly for what they want.<br />
If they do not get it then at least they practiced courage<br />
which is now stronger as the result.</p>
<p>They seek truth at all times knowing it is less painful<br />
than avoiding it.</p>
<p>They practice compassion and lots of love.</p>
<p>They believe in their ability to author and create<br />
their own lives.</p>
<p>They gather people around them that support them<br />
and do so in return.</p>
<p>Through the practice of truth they are really good<br />
at discerning what is junk science/psychology and<br />
where the good stuff is.</p>
<p>Seeing your story on youtube moves me to think you<br />
are on a path I took.  It inspired me and took me<br />
back to the last line of powder I hit that numbed<br />
me to the personal pain I felt.  I am encouraged<br />
by your movement.</p>
<p>The answers to which biz model is best for you<br />
(or why not all as part of a multi-national corp)<br />
will become more clear to you while you<br />
dedicate yourself  to facing those things<br />
in your life that need to be addressed.</p>
<p>Gather a team (friends, coaches, therapists) around<br />
you that will be absolutely honest with you.<br />
Go through the pain.  Grow.  </p>
<p>Very few executives come to me about business<br />
problems.  Most come to me because of personal<br />
or people issues.  They say biz stuff is often<br />
easily solved.  </p>
<p>I look forward to watching your journey.<br />
Who knows, maybe we can meet up sometime<br />
and talk about this very time in our lives.</p>
<p>(The character traits are loosely joined from Steve Pavlina&#8217;s<br />
Personal development for Smart People)</p>
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		<title>By: shane_k</title>
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		<dc:creator>shane_k</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 08:04:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think first it takes building a business that is systems dependant, not people dependant. Why? Because people’s desire and energy to work fluctuates up and down each day. And that would create inconsistency in a business. Some days things would get done some days they wouldn’t. But in a systems dependant business the systems are more consistent and things would get done more consistently, and you can repeat the experience for the customer over and over again. And you can repeat success again and again.

Then you need to separate yourself from your business, so your business is a system that can run without you. Create systems and hire people to run those systems. I have done this with my Real Estate Investing. This has allowed me to free myself from that so I can pursue other opportunities like Internet Marketing. 

And finally the most important you need to take advantage of &quot;Leverage&quot; 

Look at all the little IM people out there. They are all trying to do everything themselves. Then look some of the more successful people out there, they use leverage, by outsourcing the work which leveraging other people’s time and effort.


As for the guy who talked about there are no affiliate marketers on the billionaire list again it has to do with leverage. Billionaires leverage the time and effort of hundreds if not thousands of people, affiliate marketers do not. Most affiliate marketers try and do everything themselves.

I see another post where the advice is if you enjoy math do ppc, if you English was your best subject start a blog. This is what I mean, now I am not trying to knock that post it`s just that too many Affiliate Marketers feel they have to do everything themselves. If you don`t like numbers hire someone that does, if you don`t like English hire someone that does. Leverage, Leverage, Leverage. I understand that some people don`t have the money right away to outsource but it should definitely be in your plan to do it as quick as possible.

Without leverage one person can only do so much. I would rather have my own product with a couple hundred affiliates selling it for me, or a couple JV partners promoting to their lists, than me trying to do blog posts, and article marketing, link building, SEO, etc. all myself.

A systems dependant business, that can run without you and is taking advantage of leverage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think first it takes building a business that is systems dependant, not people dependant. Why? Because people’s desire and energy to work fluctuates up and down each day. And that would create inconsistency in a business. Some days things would get done some days they wouldn’t. But in a systems dependant business the systems are more consistent and things would get done more consistently, and you can repeat the experience for the customer over and over again. And you can repeat success again and again.</p>
<p>Then you need to separate yourself from your business, so your business is a system that can run without you. Create systems and hire people to run those systems. I have done this with my Real Estate Investing. This has allowed me to free myself from that so I can pursue other opportunities like Internet Marketing. </p>
<p>And finally the most important you need to take advantage of &#8220;Leverage&#8221; </p>
<p>Look at all the little IM people out there. They are all trying to do everything themselves. Then look some of the more successful people out there, they use leverage, by outsourcing the work which leveraging other people’s time and effort.</p>
<p>As for the guy who talked about there are no affiliate marketers on the billionaire list again it has to do with leverage. Billionaires leverage the time and effort of hundreds if not thousands of people, affiliate marketers do not. Most affiliate marketers try and do everything themselves.</p>
<p>I see another post where the advice is if you enjoy math do ppc, if you English was your best subject start a blog. This is what I mean, now I am not trying to knock that post it`s just that too many Affiliate Marketers feel they have to do everything themselves. If you don`t like numbers hire someone that does, if you don`t like English hire someone that does. Leverage, Leverage, Leverage. I understand that some people don`t have the money right away to outsource but it should definitely be in your plan to do it as quick as possible.</p>
<p>Without leverage one person can only do so much. I would rather have my own product with a couple hundred affiliates selling it for me, or a couple JV partners promoting to their lists, than me trying to do blog posts, and article marketing, link building, SEO, etc. all myself.</p>
<p>A systems dependant business, that can run without you and is taking advantage of leverage.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Hellman</title>
		<link>http://sitefling.com/blog/battle-of-the-internet-business-models/comment-page-1/#comment-1721</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Hellman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 04:19:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Justin,

I think the one thing that separates the men from the boys and really creating wealth is building the team. How many of us have spent hours burning the midnight oil, tyring to meet our responsibilites at work and at home and then starting up an online business  our your spare time. Most just don&#039;t make it.

All the great entrepreneurs hit their stride when they focused on becoming great team builders. Carnegie, Rockefeller, Ford, Edison, Jobs, Gates, etc. - all of them were great team builders. Sure they had great visions and ideas, but actually many people have great ideas. It is the ability to actually implement those ideas that seperates the men from the boys. You need a great team to implement great ideas.

We have to change our focus, we are not internet marketers. We are online entrepreneurs. We are not the actors and actreses. We are the Hollywood producers with our creative team taking action as we call the plays. It is the difference between playing in the big leagues and the minor leagues.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Justin,</p>
<p>I think the one thing that separates the men from the boys and really creating wealth is building the team. How many of us have spent hours burning the midnight oil, tyring to meet our responsibilites at work and at home and then starting up an online business  our your spare time. Most just don&#8217;t make it.</p>
<p>All the great entrepreneurs hit their stride when they focused on becoming great team builders. Carnegie, Rockefeller, Ford, Edison, Jobs, Gates, etc. &#8211; all of them were great team builders. Sure they had great visions and ideas, but actually many people have great ideas. It is the ability to actually implement those ideas that seperates the men from the boys. You need a great team to implement great ideas.</p>
<p>We have to change our focus, we are not internet marketers. We are online entrepreneurs. We are not the actors and actreses. We are the Hollywood producers with our creative team taking action as we call the plays. It is the difference between playing in the big leagues and the minor leagues.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Masson</title>
		<link>http://sitefling.com/blog/battle-of-the-internet-business-models/comment-page-1/#comment-1720</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Masson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 04:18:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Justin,
“Where do you begin?”
 If I had a buck for every time I heard that phrase I wouldn&#039;t need to bother with any kind of business model. For me at the moment I am still fighting my way up Niagara Falls and it’s a tough gig. I agree that MLMs are really only benefiting the top dogs and everybody else is just picking up scraps.

I diversify as much as possible but do find the workload to be intimidating at times. Most of my time is spent on WP blogs trying to find decent niche areas. 
For sure if you can hook onto the next big thing on the Internet like the dot com moguls then you’ve made it. I think mentoring programs are a profitable area to get into also.

Thanks for the read,

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Bill Masson’s last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/Web-workAtHome/~3/u6nT_X0UbuQ/&quot;&gt;How to Get Free One Way Backlinks Virally&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Justin,<br />
“Where do you begin?”<br />
 If I had a buck for every time I heard that phrase I wouldn&#8217;t need to bother with any kind of business model. For me at the moment I am still fighting my way up Niagara Falls and it’s a tough gig. I agree that MLMs are really only benefiting the top dogs and everybody else is just picking up scraps.</p>
<p>I diversify as much as possible but do find the workload to be intimidating at times. Most of my time is spent on WP blogs trying to find decent niche areas.<br />
For sure if you can hook onto the next big thing on the Internet like the dot com moguls then you’ve made it. I think mentoring programs are a profitable area to get into also.</p>
<p>Thanks for the read,</p>
<p><abbr><em>Bill Masson’s last blog post..<a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/Web-workAtHome/~3/u6nT_X0UbuQ/">How to Get Free One Way Backlinks Virally</a></em></abbr></p>
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